gc28262
04-13 11:59 PM
Well, There are many people still waiting for GC with original labor and not substitute labor with PD 2003 or prior to that. I'm not saying Sub Labor is the only reason, but it is one of the reason. Even though they are few...the impact is big... With 7% per country limit and visa numbers looks like would not spill over to EB3 due to demand in EB2 and other categories, even very few (say 3000 - 6000 labor sub applications) could consume a year or 2 years worth of visa numbers for this category for retro countries.... Even each family member (dependent) would consume a visa... with atleat 2 visa per applicant, 3000 - 5000 total EB3 labor sub could easily consume 2 years quote... if you count all.. then the "U" in VB might make sense... For EB3 ROW, there are lotz of people from Canada, S. Korea, Thailand, Australia, UK etc, and it went 'U' from 2003... The dates could move well for ROW... but for retrogressed country, I do not see the bright side yet.... Also the 485 PD was current for all categories almost all of 2003 & 2004 till Dec 31 2004, It retrogressed starting from Jan 2005 and later.... Also, the total 140,000 is for all EB categories. The 3000 - 5000 is just a conservative realistic guess.. not based on any data. Do the Math !!! You might agree !!!
Even if you assume there are 3000-5000 labor subs that chocks up the queue, it might have benefited the ones with a 2003 PD like yourself. But for others (beyond 2003) , it is not much of a help. A visa recapture would benefit the community at large.
Even if you consider 3000-5000 labor subs, not many of those are "sold" labors, many of them are legal ones. labor subs were all legal until some companies started selling those.
Even if you assume there are 3000-5000 labor subs that chocks up the queue, it might have benefited the ones with a 2003 PD like yourself. But for others (beyond 2003) , it is not much of a help. A visa recapture would benefit the community at large.
Even if you consider 3000-5000 labor subs, not many of those are "sold" labors, many of them are legal ones. labor subs were all legal until some companies started selling those.
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maximus777
08-12 04:49 PM
As far as USCIS is concerned, your fate/destiny/karma takes precedence over all dates :D
TomTancredo
03-06 03:39 PM
for $50...
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leong
09-07 11:20 PM
Nope, they are not taking my jobs but you are. So don't care about them but I do care about what you are doing or going to do.
Don't feel shy about it. this is the human dark side. People hate competition in nature. As I myself don't hate those posing no threat to my job security. I'm a believer of the evolution theory.. you know, those more intelligent are to win eventually.;) Of course, unless you play dirty... watched million dollar baby?
Don't feel shy about it. this is the human dark side. People hate competition in nature. As I myself don't hate those posing no threat to my job security. I'm a believer of the evolution theory.. you know, those more intelligent are to win eventually.;) Of course, unless you play dirty... watched million dollar baby?
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Macaca
02-02 09:49 PM
BTW, our dear macacay.
I am surprised to see that you don't know what ROW is.....
P.S.
I apologize for this utterly useless posting, but I really wanted to use the word 'macacay', the sub-continentalized version of 'macaca'
I don't know a lot. I understood retrogression last month although I have been waiting for I-485 application for 1 yr.
I also don't know RIR which I saw in your posts, I think.
Thanks for picking on me. Never heard about macacay. Actually, I had never heard of macaca until George Allen used it.
Please explain this sub-continentalized version preferably with URL.
There is nothing more to do. So useless posts are the only posts that will be there.
I am surprised to see that you don't know what ROW is.....
P.S.
I apologize for this utterly useless posting, but I really wanted to use the word 'macacay', the sub-continentalized version of 'macaca'
I don't know a lot. I understood retrogression last month although I have been waiting for I-485 application for 1 yr.
I also don't know RIR which I saw in your posts, I think.
Thanks for picking on me. Never heard about macacay. Actually, I had never heard of macaca until George Allen used it.
Please explain this sub-continentalized version preferably with URL.
There is nothing more to do. So useless posts are the only posts that will be there.
vine93
03-06 11:32 AM
I'll wait for CORE initiatives on it.
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mursai
07-17 07:03 PM
GREAT JOB ! I thank each & everyone of the IV Core team for this tremendous effort ! Enjoy everyone !
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InTheMoment
08-18 12:30 PM
jsb,
Yes...I am aware of the facts that you mention...but now that data entry is made since long, the ND has no value.
Last year when the EB2 PD's were current for 28 days in August, only those RD's whose data was entered in TSC had chance of getting GC's. In other words, receipts are now generated for all '07 fiasco filers and hence the ND has no value!
That said if a Service Center rep says about the ND replacing the RD in their system, then it is time for corrective action. With these small windows of PD being current, why take chances!
No, it is not always a 2 month gap. Normally RD (on your receipt), the data entry date (you see online as "your case was received on..."), and ND should be in quick succession. It was only in July/Aug 07 when due to high volumes many cases (including mine) waited for data entry for months, as no center wanted to accept that additional responsbility. Those whose cases were entered in July/Aug 07, became ahead of those whose cases were entered in Sept and Oct 07, no matter when they filed or what their RD (as on the receipt). People with PD in 2005 and 2006 who got GC last year were those lucky ones who cases were entered in the system in July, Aug (and may be some in Sept) 07.
Yes...I am aware of the facts that you mention...but now that data entry is made since long, the ND has no value.
Last year when the EB2 PD's were current for 28 days in August, only those RD's whose data was entered in TSC had chance of getting GC's. In other words, receipts are now generated for all '07 fiasco filers and hence the ND has no value!
That said if a Service Center rep says about the ND replacing the RD in their system, then it is time for corrective action. With these small windows of PD being current, why take chances!
No, it is not always a 2 month gap. Normally RD (on your receipt), the data entry date (you see online as "your case was received on..."), and ND should be in quick succession. It was only in July/Aug 07 when due to high volumes many cases (including mine) waited for data entry for months, as no center wanted to accept that additional responsbility. Those whose cases were entered in July/Aug 07, became ahead of those whose cases were entered in Sept and Oct 07, no matter when they filed or what their RD (as on the receipt). People with PD in 2005 and 2006 who got GC last year were those lucky ones who cases were entered in the system in July, Aug (and may be some in Sept) 07.
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BharatPremi
11-16 01:26 PM
Not sure...but I have $50 recurring thru paypal...not sure how I did that, there should be an option...
I added the word "One Time" on above post.
I added the word "One Time" on above post.
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santb1975
11-16 04:32 PM
Let's keep this Initiative going
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waitnwatch
04-25 01:06 PM
I am a bit surprised that you had to do a crazy search for a third person. I did send you guys my story. I am non-IT EB1 and I did get an initial phone call from Sunil but then did not hear back.... Any way good to hear that you did find the necessary people.
Guys,
We were approached by a award-winning reporter to provide her two members of IV that fit two criteria
1) Should be non-IT
2) EB1 or EB2
Given the 20 stories we had only 2 such folks that fit the criteria and they who were gracious and spoke to the reporter. The reporter then wanted to speak to one more person and we did not have any readily available person. So we had to do a crazy search for a person that fits this criteria. We were able to find someone at the last moment and we did not squander our chance. But chances are pretty high that such a thing can happen in future!
Guys,
We were approached by a award-winning reporter to provide her two members of IV that fit two criteria
1) Should be non-IT
2) EB1 or EB2
Given the 20 stories we had only 2 such folks that fit the criteria and they who were gracious and spoke to the reporter. The reporter then wanted to speak to one more person and we did not have any readily available person. So we had to do a crazy search for a person that fits this criteria. We were able to find someone at the last moment and we did not squander our chance. But chances are pretty high that such a thing can happen in future!
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mjdup
12-19 04:25 PM
Well said ! $20 is not a lot but if you are first time contributor, the mind set just changes after you contribute and you become part of this organisation. And that is what we want - active participation !
We have reached 40%. To reach 50% we need $6000 more. If more people can contribute, we can reach this in no time.
The core and a lot of serious members have already contributed.
There are 2 mind sets of people on this forum:
1) I have contributed $500+ , I do not need to contribute $20 more, In anycase what is my
$20 going to do?.
2) I have never contributed, but I am ashamed of making my first contribution of only $20.
(Although that is what I am comfortable doing at this time.)
Both the above mindsets are wrong because If we have 7000+ members, out of which say 1000 have already contributed, that leaves us with 6000 members. If 6000 members contribute $1 each, we are at $ 6000 - 50% met.
Now all are not going to do it.
So you see $20 is still a good amount to start.
We have reached 40%. To reach 50% we need $6000 more. If more people can contribute, we can reach this in no time.
The core and a lot of serious members have already contributed.
There are 2 mind sets of people on this forum:
1) I have contributed $500+ , I do not need to contribute $20 more, In anycase what is my
$20 going to do?.
2) I have never contributed, but I am ashamed of making my first contribution of only $20.
(Although that is what I am comfortable doing at this time.)
Both the above mindsets are wrong because If we have 7000+ members, out of which say 1000 have already contributed, that leaves us with 6000 members. If 6000 members contribute $1 each, we are at $ 6000 - 50% met.
Now all are not going to do it.
So you see $20 is still a good amount to start.
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ita
02-25 10:44 AM
Very good idea. Actually I have sent this suggestion as part of the mail to ombudsman a while back.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=23280
'realizeit' has used very good terminology.
Would be great if IV core endorses it.Also looking forward to 'desi3933' comments.
Once IV core endorses it running a funding drive for this action would be a good idea too.
Thank you.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=23280
'realizeit' has used very good terminology.
Would be great if IV core endorses it.Also looking forward to 'desi3933' comments.
Once IV core endorses it running a funding drive for this action would be a good idea too.
Thank you.
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sac-r-ten
11-11 01:06 PM
Since many gurus are of the opinion of not going the legal way, here is what i think is the best.
1. try to create awareness of her wrong-doing on social sites. Put the video, (if you like) on the sites.
2. Put a comment on the sulekha ad itself for this nanny (i dont know if you can do this).
3. Put comments on City search site. citysearch.com
4. Scare that woman away saying that you have found out that she is hitting the baby and you can complain to the cops.
this way we can make sure nobody else is hiring her as nanny.
1. try to create awareness of her wrong-doing on social sites. Put the video, (if you like) on the sites.
2. Put a comment on the sulekha ad itself for this nanny (i dont know if you can do this).
3. Put comments on City search site. citysearch.com
4. Scare that woman away saying that you have found out that she is hitting the baby and you can complain to the cops.
this way we can make sure nobody else is hiring her as nanny.
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chanduv23
02-04 11:15 AM
While, I have not made any analysis on this or do not have any basis, I just reiterated what unitednations and others have written before.
From my perspective (once again, this is just my thoughts), it looks like a slowdown or apply hard country limite for highly subscribed countries maybe a result of a lot of factors like, job market slowing down (2001,2002), complaints that immigrants are taking local jobs, consulting companies selling labors, falsifying resumes to INS or DOL (java programmer actually working in restaurant), people not getting paid prevailing wage, benching etc..... While a comprehensive reform is a good solution to retrogression and all h1bs are taken as serious immigrants, underlying issues need to be fixed before a comprehensive reform to retrogression is there. A lot of loopholes being closed and strigent rules being enacted, change is some laws that don't make sense, understanding the industry needs, issues with wage and tax issues, are things that can be happening behind the scenes (this is just what I think), in addition to backlog elimination and overflow of applicants in an overburdened system.
Once again, it is just my thoughts, which I think explains the patterns to why unused numbers are not flowing to over subscribed countries. Please correct me if I am wrong.
While job market seem to have picked up and demanding, there seems to be a need for flow if talent and that is not happening due to the problems that need to be fixed.
From my perspective (once again, this is just my thoughts), it looks like a slowdown or apply hard country limite for highly subscribed countries maybe a result of a lot of factors like, job market slowing down (2001,2002), complaints that immigrants are taking local jobs, consulting companies selling labors, falsifying resumes to INS or DOL (java programmer actually working in restaurant), people not getting paid prevailing wage, benching etc..... While a comprehensive reform is a good solution to retrogression and all h1bs are taken as serious immigrants, underlying issues need to be fixed before a comprehensive reform to retrogression is there. A lot of loopholes being closed and strigent rules being enacted, change is some laws that don't make sense, understanding the industry needs, issues with wage and tax issues, are things that can be happening behind the scenes (this is just what I think), in addition to backlog elimination and overflow of applicants in an overburdened system.
Once again, it is just my thoughts, which I think explains the patterns to why unused numbers are not flowing to over subscribed countries. Please correct me if I am wrong.
While job market seem to have picked up and demanding, there seems to be a need for flow if talent and that is not happening due to the problems that need to be fixed.
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ItIsNotFunny
11-11 05:55 PM
Guys,
I saw there are 50 replied to this post. Looks like people are more interested in others problems than their own.
Its pity that MOST CRITICAL issue we are facing at present - AC21 Denial issue, is having only 77 mails but everyone is jumping gossipping. Come out of this and show a unity to real problems.
Grow up and don't escape from real problems. Its our problem and we need to fight to resolve it.
I saw there are 50 replied to this post. Looks like people are more interested in others problems than their own.
Its pity that MOST CRITICAL issue we are facing at present - AC21 Denial issue, is having only 77 mails but everyone is jumping gossipping. Come out of this and show a unity to real problems.
Grow up and don't escape from real problems. Its our problem and we need to fight to resolve it.
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pappu
12-20 09:47 AM
Looks like this campaign is loosing the steam..... My $500 have been waiting for two days now..... We started with 33% capital and not even at 50% ...this forum cannnot even run for 17%..... forget the next 50% we need to cover by 31st December.... Looks like I saved some money.
No Anurakt. Our members will not let that happen. Members do continue the contributions. only about 100 members have paid till now. We are 7650 member strong.
No Anurakt. Our members will not let that happen. Members do continue the contributions. only about 100 members have paid till now. We are 7650 member strong.
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bigboy007
04-12 11:25 AM
Great discussions!! we are all going in different directions... How many Labor petitions few handful? There might be ppl who are stuck legitimately and ppl who did it , it was legal. Rather we should concentrate on Retrogression of VISA numbers. Then what after July 07 , think also about 140's there were pending there are a handful with earlier priority dates. Also many times USCIS issued GC's for ppl with earlier PD's should they return their GC back ? And potato eater has mentioned its not point to argument. I dont think there are those who are blocking the system. It is sheer number of VISA's that are driving nuts. There were also proposals that VISA numbers be applied only to principal applicants. Actions like these will have impact on final numbers.
And above all this idea is not new , It was even discussed by many members (in ~2006) when Substitution was abolished. But we are already here. We will campaign like Rajiv Khanna had said and then what discuss new proposal ? I feel its not that easy to do a change for existing ones in pipeline and USCIS has completely abolished this idea altogether.
Main action agenda: Legislation to get back unused numbers. I dont want IV to waste energy or resources anything beyond this and we shouldnt keep on discussions of new proposals. Our only point of discussion should be How to get legislative fix done.
Come to think of it, this idea has potential to fly. We can ask CIS to make the date of I-140 filing as the PD for substituted labor case. This will ensure that PD will move forward smoothly till July 07 at least. That will cover most of the long standing ( and long suffering) GC applicants and bring them relief. This will not have any other impact on the number of outstanding apps or available visa numbers etc. I guess this change in PD assignment logic can be done by CIS without the need of any new legislation.
The idea inherently appeals to those who believe in fair play. How do we take this forward.
And above all this idea is not new , It was even discussed by many members (in ~2006) when Substitution was abolished. But we are already here. We will campaign like Rajiv Khanna had said and then what discuss new proposal ? I feel its not that easy to do a change for existing ones in pipeline and USCIS has completely abolished this idea altogether.
Main action agenda: Legislation to get back unused numbers. I dont want IV to waste energy or resources anything beyond this and we shouldnt keep on discussions of new proposals. Our only point of discussion should be How to get legislative fix done.
Come to think of it, this idea has potential to fly. We can ask CIS to make the date of I-140 filing as the PD for substituted labor case. This will ensure that PD will move forward smoothly till July 07 at least. That will cover most of the long standing ( and long suffering) GC applicants and bring them relief. This will not have any other impact on the number of outstanding apps or available visa numbers etc. I guess this change in PD assignment logic can be done by CIS without the need of any new legislation.
The idea inherently appeals to those who believe in fair play. How do we take this forward.
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GCStatus
09-18 12:11 AM
madhuvj or GCStatus,
Thanks for your suggestion. But the problem is its not that simple. Here is why. If the same individual create multiple IDs on IV and post using multiple IDs, one for posting derogatory comments and others that are not derogatory, we can keep mum to a point, but then it just gets too frustrating. Like in this case, madhuvj and GCStatus is the same person posting from the same machine but posting as if you are two different individuals. Hence my posts. Please stop this and email/pm us your phone number and we will start the transition process. We are sure you will do a better job than us.
You see, just like everyone else, we also have limited number of hours in a day. We can either spend our time looking at who is using multiple forum ids to post similar messages creating a false impression for other forum visitor, like the one projected in 'if i can be blunt' thread, or we can spend our time doing better things. Your actions are not helping anyone including yourself. Hope you understand.
Holy cow - you got to be kidding man - This is getting hilarious. Show me proof its from same machine and same IP.
I am sorry, i expected better from an admin. " If i can be blunt" is a genuine thread. Not a waste of time.
Seriously, i lost all the respect after you keep making statements after statements without even backing up one of them.
Amazingly you are still rude and i am not.
Thanks for your suggestion. But the problem is its not that simple. Here is why. If the same individual create multiple IDs on IV and post using multiple IDs, one for posting derogatory comments and others that are not derogatory, we can keep mum to a point, but then it just gets too frustrating. Like in this case, madhuvj and GCStatus is the same person posting from the same machine but posting as if you are two different individuals. Hence my posts. Please stop this and email/pm us your phone number and we will start the transition process. We are sure you will do a better job than us.
You see, just like everyone else, we also have limited number of hours in a day. We can either spend our time looking at who is using multiple forum ids to post similar messages creating a false impression for other forum visitor, like the one projected in 'if i can be blunt' thread, or we can spend our time doing better things. Your actions are not helping anyone including yourself. Hope you understand.
Holy cow - you got to be kidding man - This is getting hilarious. Show me proof its from same machine and same IP.
I am sorry, i expected better from an admin. " If i can be blunt" is a genuine thread. Not a waste of time.
Seriously, i lost all the respect after you keep making statements after statements without even backing up one of them.
Amazingly you are still rude and i am not.
jalaj
05-25 01:37 PM
hi can somebody please tell me that after doing DDS/DMD(doctorate of dental surgery) can we apply under H1B master quota
desidream
07-17 07:21 PM
This announcement will bring in lot of positive changes in lives of many. I like to thank IV Core and IV members for keeping our hopes and moral high, not to mention tireless work put in behind the scenes to make this impossible happen.
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