seahawks
04-12 01:05 PM
We all understand the EB immigration system currently as is needs to be fixed. We need to recognize this problem first. What I don't understand is most of the people I talk to about issues do not recognize the problem or are willing to accept it as is. They don't seem to be motivated in supporting IV from volunteering or providing financial support. If you look at this forum, take the amount of people who are registered and the amount of people who actually bring tangible value to this organization. What is in those few that we don't have? Let us all recognize that there is a problem first and lets think about ways to mobilize and spend energy in one direction set by IV.
Yes, we may not agree with every solution, but let us focus and believe that something will happen, if we all try together!
Yes, we may not agree with every solution, but let us focus and believe that something will happen, if we all try together!
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hoolahoous
12-09 01:53 PM
So why dont you see that this is not about helping a fellow human being in need. Everyone should do that. The sheriffs dept took her to the hospital to ensure that in case there is any complication, things could be take care of. Why? Because its the law and the majority in this country respect the law. No one, even illegals, can be denied emergent care. This would not happen if she were in Mexico or India. No free medical care there, and no one gives a shit about the rights of prisoners there.
If every one decides to choose for themselves which law they will obey and which they will ignore, society can not exist. And as I pointed out in my previous post, this woman has a history of repeated violations of the law and is NOT a victim that this biased article tries to portray her as.
And your theory about child birth leading to near death like pain is absolutely baseless. Pain is a subjective phenomenon and what is expireinced as a 9/10 by some hysterical yuppy, will be a 0 to others. Childbirth is a NATURAL phenomenon. Ask your grandma and she will tell you how every one delivered without epidurals and caeserians at her time.
sorry but DOL's is not my theory. Looks like you never seem to have seen a child birth. It is an ACTUAL unit.
List of unusual units of measurement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unusual_units_of_measurement#Dol:_Pain)
also if everyone goes through same amount of pain, that doesn't reduce the intensity. Let me ask you once you get laid off when your wife is pregnant. I am sure that you know that as soon as you are off the job on H1, unless you had AOS, you are ILLEGAL from same instant. Let me see where your principals hold. Status is a piece of paper which is created by human.
And imagine tying the hands to a bar when delivering a baby. I wonder we complaint about cramped seats in plane when flying to India (unless you fly business class, then probably you don't need GC) but think that chained to bed when delivering a baby is perfectly okay !
There is a law for illegals and they should get the punishment (deported), but that doesn't mean we should go out of way to device our own punishments to 'teach a lesson' to 'these illegals'. There are some basic Human rights. Even POW's are supposed to be treated with those human rights.
If every one decides to choose for themselves which law they will obey and which they will ignore, society can not exist. And as I pointed out in my previous post, this woman has a history of repeated violations of the law and is NOT a victim that this biased article tries to portray her as.
And your theory about child birth leading to near death like pain is absolutely baseless. Pain is a subjective phenomenon and what is expireinced as a 9/10 by some hysterical yuppy, will be a 0 to others. Childbirth is a NATURAL phenomenon. Ask your grandma and she will tell you how every one delivered without epidurals and caeserians at her time.
sorry but DOL's is not my theory. Looks like you never seem to have seen a child birth. It is an ACTUAL unit.
List of unusual units of measurement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unusual_units_of_measurement#Dol:_Pain)
also if everyone goes through same amount of pain, that doesn't reduce the intensity. Let me ask you once you get laid off when your wife is pregnant. I am sure that you know that as soon as you are off the job on H1, unless you had AOS, you are ILLEGAL from same instant. Let me see where your principals hold. Status is a piece of paper which is created by human.
And imagine tying the hands to a bar when delivering a baby. I wonder we complaint about cramped seats in plane when flying to India (unless you fly business class, then probably you don't need GC) but think that chained to bed when delivering a baby is perfectly okay !
There is a law for illegals and they should get the punishment (deported), but that doesn't mean we should go out of way to device our own punishments to 'teach a lesson' to 'these illegals'. There are some basic Human rights. Even POW's are supposed to be treated with those human rights.
amsgc
05-30 11:32 PM
Hi,
Is there anybody here who's application reached USCIS on April 30 (lottery for advanced degree) and has received an approval/rejection notice, or had their application returned?
Have you been issued a receipt number?
Have your checks been deposited by the USCIS?
Please respond.
Thanks.
Is there anybody here who's application reached USCIS on April 30 (lottery for advanced degree) and has received an approval/rejection notice, or had their application returned?
Have you been issued a receipt number?
Have your checks been deposited by the USCIS?
Please respond.
Thanks.
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ujjvalkoul
12-18 05:17 PM
I wish this thread would reach 100 pages just like the one during the last days of the Lame Duck sessions when folks were jamming senator sessions' phone lines.
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eb3_nepa
02-05 11:27 AM
Everyone in this forum knows that I am a complete moron: I did not even know ROW and Schedule A. So it does not make sense in paying attention to my advice. I still have the audacity to request everyone to pay more attention to the following.
Both sides have very valid points. A healthy debate on the topic is insightfull specially to morons like me. However, it is sad to see contributing members fighting over an issue that we may NOT have to resolve. I wish we had such a vigorous debate on generating contributions which will serve some purpose.
I agree Macaca. It never ceases to amaze me, how willing and ready everyone on here is to start a rousing argument over the smallest things instead of focussing on the main goal!
Both sides have very valid points. A healthy debate on the topic is insightfull specially to morons like me. However, it is sad to see contributing members fighting over an issue that we may NOT have to resolve. I wish we had such a vigorous debate on generating contributions which will serve some purpose.
I agree Macaca. It never ceases to amaze me, how willing and ready everyone on here is to start a rousing argument over the smallest things instead of focussing on the main goal!
diptam
09-07 10:55 PM
Please also make sure that while you are fighting against STRIVE act and choke employment based category AMERICAN jobs dont silently go away to SANGHAI / BANGALORE / VANCOUBER
:D :D :D
After hearing this, do you think our folks will sit quiet. We will do whatever it takes to makes sure that American jobs stays American.
By god grace , we will make sure that Strive act does not pass. Especially, the portion that talks about employment based category.
:D :D :D
After hearing this, do you think our folks will sit quiet. We will do whatever it takes to makes sure that American jobs stays American.
By god grace , we will make sure that Strive act does not pass. Especially, the portion that talks about employment based category.
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Michigan123
04-30 07:38 PM
My visa stamp has name some thing like that
XYZ ABC
FNU
xyz is first name ABC is last name
FNU is family name unkown
The passport has Given name as XYZ ABC ....and surname is blank
The EAD ,485 ,Social Security Card has
LNU ,ABC XYZ
The michigan DMV has refused to issue the Driver Licence ,They are telling the names do not match ...... Some how I have shown the AP document which has photo as identity and having name LNU, XYZ ABC ......accepted the documents . I know this is start of whole lot of trouble ...
Now I want to know how to correct these changes at USCIS ,consulate .......
God knows how many places ...........Totally confused ......
Given the fact the USCIS has lot of pending cases and will not change in matter of months or years ....
All suggestion will be appreciated
XYZ ABC
FNU
xyz is first name ABC is last name
FNU is family name unkown
The passport has Given name as XYZ ABC ....and surname is blank
The EAD ,485 ,Social Security Card has
LNU ,ABC XYZ
The michigan DMV has refused to issue the Driver Licence ,They are telling the names do not match ...... Some how I have shown the AP document which has photo as identity and having name LNU, XYZ ABC ......accepted the documents . I know this is start of whole lot of trouble ...
Now I want to know how to correct these changes at USCIS ,consulate .......
God knows how many places ...........Totally confused ......
Given the fact the USCIS has lot of pending cases and will not change in matter of months or years ....
All suggestion will be appreciated
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mundada
07-10 03:39 PM
Hey...
the law is not an end in itself... it's a means to achieving end.... and hence it can be challenged in the courts...
final point... let us walk through the situation... per quota country limits is removed... now everyone applying for the employment based visa has to wait for 5 years.... so every country immigrant & the country politicians will pressure the US govt. to act... and only then politicians would act!
case in hand: Labor Certifications... Before PERM it took upto 3 years for the labor to be certified and it affected everyone irrespective of the country... So the PERM was introduced.
AC-21 ... before AC-21 everyone was getting affected and hence the AC-21 law..
One may argue otherwise... but the reality is it matters especially if everyone is getting affected... However, we try... the family based visa won't go away... it affects everyone! No surprise that the latin american senators would NOT allow any legal immigration efforts to succeed without their cause being taken as well.
The only way a thing will get done is if we have a mass problem... and if there isn't then as a tactic it is necessary to create one so that the whole problem could be solved. Otherwise everything will be lost in statistics like
1> Only 2% of countries are getting affected.
2> Only IT/electrical/software are getting affected.
3> Out of the affected people only 5% are leaving, overall only 2% are leaving.
4> etc. etc.
Please note the above numbers are my guestimates.. but I hope you got the point. I am ready to bet the day per country cap is removed... within a year something would be done about the whole EB immigration.
The human psychology is to be risk averse that is if something does not affect me then why should I bother myself with it? In other words, unless many people do not get affected, there won't be reform/change/resolution!
FBI check delay is admin procedure so courts could take up the case. But per country quota is law.
Many persons used to say skills need to be basis for selection. But that is not applicable for GC processing. Here there is no selection from multiple candidates. In Labor and I140 they are checking that particular candidate is suitable for that position or not and also no US citizen is available for the job. If not they will reject the candidate. So they are not selecting based on Merrit as no compettion is there for the particular position. So it is just all the eligible persons will get GC. It is similar to all the high school passed candidates will get admission to college if seats are available but not based on marks but based on FIFO basis.
By FIFO based it is discriminatory but still unused other country quota is used in last quarter for India and China. So per country quota impact will be less if CIS uses all the 140K. Also they are not giving any one country preference or quota. So it is not outrageous compared to many other controversial laws. Law in any country is not perfect and even if perfect it will give more benefit to some group.
It is very difficult to win by lawsuit against any law unless that law is outrageous and impacts many persons. So best way is to try for another law to change a law. But just removing per country quota will give very less benefit especially for Eb3. Waiting time will reduce from 7 to 6 years for all countries. If per country quota is removed with recapture bill then waiting time for EB3 may reduce to 1 to 3 years for EB3.
the law is not an end in itself... it's a means to achieving end.... and hence it can be challenged in the courts...
final point... let us walk through the situation... per quota country limits is removed... now everyone applying for the employment based visa has to wait for 5 years.... so every country immigrant & the country politicians will pressure the US govt. to act... and only then politicians would act!
case in hand: Labor Certifications... Before PERM it took upto 3 years for the labor to be certified and it affected everyone irrespective of the country... So the PERM was introduced.
AC-21 ... before AC-21 everyone was getting affected and hence the AC-21 law..
One may argue otherwise... but the reality is it matters especially if everyone is getting affected... However, we try... the family based visa won't go away... it affects everyone! No surprise that the latin american senators would NOT allow any legal immigration efforts to succeed without their cause being taken as well.
The only way a thing will get done is if we have a mass problem... and if there isn't then as a tactic it is necessary to create one so that the whole problem could be solved. Otherwise everything will be lost in statistics like
1> Only 2% of countries are getting affected.
2> Only IT/electrical/software are getting affected.
3> Out of the affected people only 5% are leaving, overall only 2% are leaving.
4> etc. etc.
Please note the above numbers are my guestimates.. but I hope you got the point. I am ready to bet the day per country cap is removed... within a year something would be done about the whole EB immigration.
The human psychology is to be risk averse that is if something does not affect me then why should I bother myself with it? In other words, unless many people do not get affected, there won't be reform/change/resolution!
FBI check delay is admin procedure so courts could take up the case. But per country quota is law.
Many persons used to say skills need to be basis for selection. But that is not applicable for GC processing. Here there is no selection from multiple candidates. In Labor and I140 they are checking that particular candidate is suitable for that position or not and also no US citizen is available for the job. If not they will reject the candidate. So they are not selecting based on Merrit as no compettion is there for the particular position. So it is just all the eligible persons will get GC. It is similar to all the high school passed candidates will get admission to college if seats are available but not based on marks but based on FIFO basis.
By FIFO based it is discriminatory but still unused other country quota is used in last quarter for India and China. So per country quota impact will be less if CIS uses all the 140K. Also they are not giving any one country preference or quota. So it is not outrageous compared to many other controversial laws. Law in any country is not perfect and even if perfect it will give more benefit to some group.
It is very difficult to win by lawsuit against any law unless that law is outrageous and impacts many persons. So best way is to try for another law to change a law. But just removing per country quota will give very less benefit especially for Eb3. Waiting time will reduce from 7 to 6 years for all countries. If per country quota is removed with recapture bill then waiting time for EB3 may reduce to 1 to 3 years for EB3.
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03-09 01:07 PM
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ganesha
08-20 02:58 PM
I just talked to a NSC representative and he told me that my case is sent to extended review. Now what is this extended review?
Well, what annoys and confused me is that when I took Info pass day before yesterday she told me that my case is with IO. And now NSC rep is giving me another version called extended review.
Don't know whom to believe.
Does anyone here had same exp.
I talked to a TSC rep a couple days back and she told me that my case is under review. When pressed what it meant she told me I have to wait for some more time before action is taken on my case:confused:
Well, what annoys and confused me is that when I took Info pass day before yesterday she told me that my case is with IO. And now NSC rep is giving me another version called extended review.
Don't know whom to believe.
Does anyone here had same exp.
I talked to a TSC rep a couple days back and she told me that my case is under review. When pressed what it meant she told me I have to wait for some more time before action is taken on my case:confused:
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09-08 12:12 AM
good work Sherman_tribiani, i am watching this group of "highly skilled job stealer� for sometime. they merely talk and do nothing. most of them r scared to do anything. they r scared of u & me. they r not scared when they steal our jobs and we will scare the hell out these ba$tard$ to make them do in their pants before we kick them out. gheen told me about this group and he also said that not to waste my time on these job stealers as they r weak and incapable of doing anything, other than stealing our jobs and outsourcing.
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InTheMoment
02-26 12:14 PM
realizeit,
Good proposal and initiative....but few points you should note that others might also have brought out.
1.) Pre-adjudication (process I-485, send RFE etc. just short of visa number allocation)
is already prevalent in USCIS and has been since several years now.
Just google for "pre-adjudication USCIS" ...but this might just suffice:
judiciary.house.gov/hearings/pdf/USCIS080430.pdf (judiciary.house.gov/hearings/pdf/USCIS080430.pdf)
page 2
How else do you think thousands of visa numbers were assigned and GC's
issued in June 2007?
2.) Lawmakers will be throughly opposed to the idea of a pseudo GC as given in your
proposal, that would be tantamount to diminishing the value of adjusting the status
and visa allocation as it stands in the INA now.
3.) That said...I completely agree that as a baby step USCIS should make the pre-adjudication
transparent to the applicants in the "case status online" to relieve the applicants of
mental agony.
Good proposal and initiative....but few points you should note that others might also have brought out.
1.) Pre-adjudication (process I-485, send RFE etc. just short of visa number allocation)
is already prevalent in USCIS and has been since several years now.
Just google for "pre-adjudication USCIS" ...but this might just suffice:
judiciary.house.gov/hearings/pdf/USCIS080430.pdf (judiciary.house.gov/hearings/pdf/USCIS080430.pdf)
page 2
How else do you think thousands of visa numbers were assigned and GC's
issued in June 2007?
2.) Lawmakers will be throughly opposed to the idea of a pseudo GC as given in your
proposal, that would be tantamount to diminishing the value of adjusting the status
and visa allocation as it stands in the INA now.
3.) That said...I completely agree that as a baby step USCIS should make the pre-adjudication
transparent to the applicants in the "case status online" to relieve the applicants of
mental agony.
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senthil1
07-10 12:28 PM
FBI check delay is admin procedure so courts could take up the case. But per country quota is law.
Many persons used to say skills need to be basis for selection. But that is not applicable for GC processing. Here there is no selection from multiple candidates. In Labor and I140 they are checking that particular candidate is suitable for that position or not and also no US citizen is available for the job. If not they will reject the candidate. So they are not selecting based on Merrit as no compettion is there for the particular position. So it is just all the eligible persons will get GC. It is similar to all the high school passed candidates will get admission to college if seats are available but not based on marks but based on FIFO basis.
By FIFO based it is discriminatory but still unused other country quota is used in last quarter for India and China. So per country quota impact will be less if CIS uses all the 140K. Also they are not giving any one country preference or quota. So it is not outrageous compared to many other controversial laws. Law in any country is not perfect and even if perfect it will give more benefit to some group.
It is very difficult to win by lawsuit against any law unless that law is outrageous and impacts many persons. So best way is to try for another law to change a law. But just removing per country quota will give very less benefit especially for Eb3. Waiting time will reduce from 7 to 6 years for all countries. If per country quota is removed with recapture bill then waiting time for EB3 may reduce to 1 to 3 years for EB3.
I also personally think the lawsuit is the better way, especially in the election year.
It can produce one of the three results:
1> We Win... Everything is fine.
2> We Lose... At least the thing got settled and it is clear that the US can create discriminatory laws.
3> Force Congress & the US govt. to expediately state its stand & justify the stand on the per country quota limit in employment based immigration.
Everyone, I talked to including some lawyers, especially after 9/11, thought that nothing could be done about FBI check ups. But guess what, the courts decided in favor and required that FBI check ups be done in 6 months.
Second case would be about Guatanamo Bay prisoners. Even there, the courts decided the prisoners were protected by the US human rights laws.
The good thing about the US is the case gets settled/decided ASAP, and it would make sense to give the lawsuit a try.
Many persons used to say skills need to be basis for selection. But that is not applicable for GC processing. Here there is no selection from multiple candidates. In Labor and I140 they are checking that particular candidate is suitable for that position or not and also no US citizen is available for the job. If not they will reject the candidate. So they are not selecting based on Merrit as no compettion is there for the particular position. So it is just all the eligible persons will get GC. It is similar to all the high school passed candidates will get admission to college if seats are available but not based on marks but based on FIFO basis.
By FIFO based it is discriminatory but still unused other country quota is used in last quarter for India and China. So per country quota impact will be less if CIS uses all the 140K. Also they are not giving any one country preference or quota. So it is not outrageous compared to many other controversial laws. Law in any country is not perfect and even if perfect it will give more benefit to some group.
It is very difficult to win by lawsuit against any law unless that law is outrageous and impacts many persons. So best way is to try for another law to change a law. But just removing per country quota will give very less benefit especially for Eb3. Waiting time will reduce from 7 to 6 years for all countries. If per country quota is removed with recapture bill then waiting time for EB3 may reduce to 1 to 3 years for EB3.
I also personally think the lawsuit is the better way, especially in the election year.
It can produce one of the three results:
1> We Win... Everything is fine.
2> We Lose... At least the thing got settled and it is clear that the US can create discriminatory laws.
3> Force Congress & the US govt. to expediately state its stand & justify the stand on the per country quota limit in employment based immigration.
Everyone, I talked to including some lawyers, especially after 9/11, thought that nothing could be done about FBI check ups. But guess what, the courts decided in favor and required that FBI check ups be done in 6 months.
Second case would be about Guatanamo Bay prisoners. Even there, the courts decided the prisoners were protected by the US human rights laws.
The good thing about the US is the case gets settled/decided ASAP, and it would make sense to give the lawsuit a try.
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rajuseattle
04-12 12:11 AM
I do agree with you, USCIS honors the old PD on the Labor, not the I-140 filing date.
Dont know the exact rule on the labor substitution cases, but i know for sure people who applied in 2007 with old sub labor PDs from 2000 and 2001 received their GCs. I would simply call them lucky as they found the Employers who took advantagfe of the sub labor rule and filed their petitions before the sunset date of July 16th 2007.
Lets hope USCIS do their job and approves only the genuine lab sub cases.
For rest of us who were the victims of backlog elimination centre and then the stupid July 2007 fiasco of making very EB category current, its just our bad luck, in backlog centre too DoL processed our apps out of order and now USCIS doing the same thing.
Dont know the exact rule on the labor substitution cases, but i know for sure people who applied in 2007 with old sub labor PDs from 2000 and 2001 received their GCs. I would simply call them lucky as they found the Employers who took advantagfe of the sub labor rule and filed their petitions before the sunset date of July 16th 2007.
Lets hope USCIS do their job and approves only the genuine lab sub cases.
For rest of us who were the victims of backlog elimination centre and then the stupid July 2007 fiasco of making very EB category current, its just our bad luck, in backlog centre too DoL processed our apps out of order and now USCIS doing the same thing.
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english_august
07-05 10:21 PM
The idea that core wants to float is to have an effective campaign under the IV umbrella. Please come up with more innovative ideas and discuss with core.
I think this campaign can be pretty effective if we want it to. This idea is not totally outlandish. If you recall, recently fans of the CBS series Jericho sent nuts to the office of CBS when that series was discontinued.
Sometime back, Indians in the UK sent thousands of unstamped letters to their postal department, protesting a stamp that hurt their religious sentiments.
Those campaigns worked and so can this. All we need is a little bit of enthusiasm!
I think this campaign can be pretty effective if we want it to. This idea is not totally outlandish. If you recall, recently fans of the CBS series Jericho sent nuts to the office of CBS when that series was discontinued.
Sometime back, Indians in the UK sent thousands of unstamped letters to their postal department, protesting a stamp that hurt their religious sentiments.
Those campaigns worked and so can this. All we need is a little bit of enthusiasm!
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fatjoe
08-26 01:08 PM
Yes, they go by the receipt date, which appears on your USCIS online status - they are suppose to go by the date delivered to mail room / receipt date printed on your 797
The Receipt date is the date when they actually receive our case in a Service Center. Notice date is when it got entered into the system. I-485 Notice shows both the RD and ND. RD should be August 17 for most of us, whose cases were transferred to various Service Centers. Online status shows the ND. The only confusion here is what do they go by(may be USCIS it self not sure how to prioritize - whether on ND or RD).
Strictly speaking, if they go by ND and if the ND is after Aug-17 we may not be eligible for GC, as our(July/Aug 07 batch) cut-off dates is august-17-2007. This is what I was told by DAO when I attended the interview at the local USCIS office.
The Receipt date is the date when they actually receive our case in a Service Center. Notice date is when it got entered into the system. I-485 Notice shows both the RD and ND. RD should be August 17 for most of us, whose cases were transferred to various Service Centers. Online status shows the ND. The only confusion here is what do they go by(may be USCIS it self not sure how to prioritize - whether on ND or RD).
Strictly speaking, if they go by ND and if the ND is after Aug-17 we may not be eligible for GC, as our(July/Aug 07 batch) cut-off dates is august-17-2007. This is what I was told by DAO when I attended the interview at the local USCIS office.
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