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  • abhijitp
    11-20 03:16 PM
    I never claimed any amount for this holiday gift on this thread yet but what if I want to donate $31 or per say $ 81 one time, I do not have that option now and so I will end up not donating now and wait and donate when I feel comfortable with $ 100/- or its multiplications. That is called turning away and if you guys do not see any danger into it I do not have any further words.

    Fund raising is an art and I believe our current startegy is lacking that art. If you guys see the base of any major successful fund raising (Grass root level not Political ones, mind well we claim ourselves grass root level organization)you will always find donors with $ 1 to donors with $1 million donatiing as per their will. Grass root level fund raisings can not afford constraints which normally goes successful in political and/or industrial fund raisings.

    Some of the strong supporters of current policy, in their argument, automatically assume that willing donor always used to spend $ 100/- frequently for drinks or food and may be living lavish life style. But they are partly wrong in their assumption...I myself never eat outside frequently. Even on a travel trip I cook my food by myself and I normally do not drink sodas or alcohol so what abhijitp has given a example at least does not remain valid for me but I can not say that it is completely out of proportion, as it has some valid logic but it can not be true for everyone.

    Point is if we make a wrong based fund raising policy, we may hurt ourselves only. I know my option, if I want to donate odd figure now, I will not be able to donate it now, and I will have to wait till I feel comfortable donating $ 100/- and/or single digit multiplications of $ 100/- but would that be considered a good and wise option?

    For an example, I am emotionally charged today and I want to donate $ 61/-(As I may plan that much only..for whatever reasons) but I am not able to donate so I will not donate and say after 4 months I will be able to plan $ 100/- but what if at that time I may not be emotionally charged to donate all together? So end effect would be I will end up donating nothing ( This is just an example..:))

    And for the sake of argument if you enrolled yourself $50/- recurring, you did it willingly and so would you change to $ 25/- recurring if $ 25/-option is available to you? (Note: I think most people on this board fear that with having a minimum amount option, most people will turn to that only but that may not be 100% true. and even if it may become true it will end up having more donation flow) For most people answer is no, I believe, They will stick to $ 50/- recurring option as they can afford and they did it willingly. But with current policy we are completely turning away the people who may otherwise donate, for an example $ 20/- monthly-recurring policy may turn 40 new commited donors in whereas $50/- recurring option is creating only 10 donors and thus we may be ending up $ 300/- confirmed donation loss per month. This is just an example and based on assumption that less amount would attract more commited donors.

    Having said all this, if majority memebrs and core still feel that this will be the only future standard for accepting donations then as I mentioned above, I will have only one option left and that is to wait till I become comfortable for donating $ 100/- ( I will remain emotionally charged...:))

    Some answers.
    1) Paskal has already suggested how you can donate an odd figure with a personal check... it is a matter of time.
    2) I think you can paypal whatever amount you want to IV using PAYPAL. You just need to know the email address of IV, as registered with paypal. I just sent you a PM, please check.
    3) For the latest event conducted by North California chapter, we were accepting ANY amount for a contribution. I repeat, ANY amount. Would you like to know how many folks contributed in the end??
    4) You are missing the point about expenses on gas/ food/ drink. Actually I have no business asking anyone to stop eating out (I know I love to do it every once in a while:))

    My point is, you make no investment in your own quality of life when you do it. So why not invest some amount every month in your own future?

    Do you think things will somehow miraculously change and get you your green card faster?

    Would you also please note that some folks are working tirelessly and/or contributing regularly even as those who will benefit much sooner than themselves from this effort, choose not to pay even $10 a month to sustain this kind of a mammoth effort?

    Please think about it, thanks!





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  • pappu
    12-18 06:33 PM
    Thanks fromnaija and Ganesh for the contributions.
    we now have 7 contributions today.





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  • antihero
    04-11 11:36 PM
    I believe as per the current rules CIS routinely assigns the PD of the substitute labor as the PD of the replacement worker.

    What Rajiv Khanna says is very fair, but unfortunately CIS is not run by Khanna. In any case, can you please post the link to the aforementioned blog.

    I read on Rajiv Khanna's blog that PD for LC substitution cases should be the date when I-140 is filed for substitute however, there is evidence that USCIS has wrongly assigned orginal priority date of LC filing, to substitute (I have seen this happening in one case at least, where susbstitue got priotity date of LC).





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  • Macaca
    02-02 09:49 PM
    BTW, our dear macacay.
    I am surprised to see that you don't know what ROW is.....

    P.S.
    I apologize for this utterly useless posting, but I really wanted to use the word 'macacay', the sub-continentalized version of 'macaca'

    I don't know a lot. I understood retrogression last month although I have been waiting for I-485 application for 1 yr.

    I also don't know RIR which I saw in your posts, I think.

    Thanks for picking on me. Never heard about macacay. Actually, I had never heard of macaca until George Allen used it.

    Please explain this sub-continentalized version preferably with URL.

    There is nothing more to do. So useless posts are the only posts that will be there.



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  • ItIsNotFunny
    03-09 11:15 AM
    This is very useful information. Pappu is unarguably right that it doesn't make sense to wait for a year even after paying $5K. The whole system is absurd.

    I am writing mail to Ombudsman regarding delay in replying FOIA.

    Guys, as IV is also putting all options and working on this, lets not loose our momentum and keep contributing towards this. Pappu's message clearly indicates that if needed, this fund will be used for this purpose specifically and also as he mentioned, we need more fund to get data earlier.





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  • continuedProgress
    10-06 06:03 PM
    Once you've fixed/changed your passport. The correct name would be available for use on your AP and H4 upon subsequent renewals.
    Once you've got your new passport - I would suggest contacting uscis for fixing 485.



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  • transpass
    09-13 11:03 PM
    I think we need to cc the same letter to several others including...
    USCIS Director,
    Zoe Lofgren and other congress representatives ...





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  • Goodintentions
    04-14 12:02 PM
    The aim of this appeal is not to compare or compete with EB1, PhDs, US MS degree holders or discuss other exotic bills!

    There are several hundred EB2 / EB3 folks who have continued to live here for several years (many have crossed 10 years). They are stuck in the infinitely long GC line, for no fault of theirs. It is natural that people who have stayed for long have grown up children (who are not US born) and who need to go to a good college for a good future.

    It is almost impossible to pay international fees and it is neither fair no appropriate to break the back of genuine law abiding residents, despite the fact that they have lived for
    8 / 10 years and have sincerely paid the taxes due to the government, just because they do not have a GC.

    For the "sin" of being Indian/ Chinese born and for the "sin" of not being able to get the GC because the rules favour long term indentured labour, an entire upcoming yonger generation should not be allowed to suffer. This is unfair and discriminatory. If any one of us had been from a country other than India and China, we would have obtained out GCs in 3 / 4 years.

    The idea is to have the cases of all genuine, hard working, EB2 / EB3 employees who have honestly lived here and are continuing to process the path ot GC legally, be considered from the human angle, more so from the point of view of the education of the children.

    When it comes to illegals, people scream about human values, humanitarian considerations, education of their children, family ties etc etc. What about us, who have followed the rules "to the T" ????

    Is following the rules, going through the approval complex web of approval processes, paying taxes and trying to lead sedate and simple lives a sin?

    Are we not human beings? May be we are labelled "aliens" but we are certainly not from Mars!

    So friends, let us be clear in where we stand and what we are pleading for.

    Unless we have the conviction and clarity we cannot make any progess!

    Long live the unity of EB 2 / EB3 employees!

    May the SUPREME POWER bless IV and the genuine forum members!



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  • Mahatma
    07-10 02:53 PM
    Senthil has articulated legal basis of current system. However, many members feel agrieved by current situation. My displeasure with current law was based on my perception about principles of natural justice and a dogma that one measure (current provisions) should not negatively impact other's basic rights for happiness, equality, nondiscrimination etc. Courts could take a look at how much damage or injury is possible or actually already resulting (stalled careers, family separation, life on hold, creativity-innovation halted) in current system. Atleast it will open up healthy debate and rational measures to address genuine problems.

    Could anybody clarify as to whether counting of family members towards annual quota is mandated by congress or it is an administrative provision.

    Bill Clinton did a wonderful fix by signing AC21 which corrected many shortfalls of immigration law.

    I am personally not impacted by backlog. However, I am feeling bad enough for the failure of current sysem that overlooks human tragedies. 180-day name check fix is a commendable step by USCIS (brought about by healthy debate and do not look at this as court-imposed). As in the scientific world, peer review and criticism is taken seriously in this country. By law suit, we are trying to create peer review or honest analysis about this impasse. No body wins but the truth and humanity.

    If there is any way to open up annual quota (recapture, family members exempt from annual limit or any measure I am not aware of), automatically everybody could benefit. It may be also possible for EB3 to interfile or refile for EB2 and take advantage of old priority date and shorten the wait. There is no magic wand! We could help our administrators, law makers, law protectors and law upholders to make appropriate corrections. Hence, scientific and rational dialogue through fair and just means should be our focus.

    Let us highlight our difficulties in a logical way. Go about living normal life but stand up for something you believe in.

    Honestly, Ineed to do some research on EB3 situation and see if there is something more meaningful to share with IVians.





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  • venugv
    07-17 07:35 PM
    I am really proud to be part of the IV team. I am also proud of the fact that I am one among the few thousands to take part in the flower campaign and in the rally at San Jose. Kudos to us all!:)



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  • ssreenu
    04-14 07:50 AM
    From the following information:

    1.Grant GC to all EB 2 / 3 class pimary applicants who have completed 8 years of continuous stay in the USA without any criminal record.

    Personally, I do think the above bill you requested in the #1) is extremely difficult to work. It is because there was a bill proposed to the EB-2/EB-3 applicants to occupy the annual DV-lottery of 55,000 quota but it is NOT becomed a law yet. Now is April, 2011 and the DV-lottery results of this year will be announced soon online and the coming year of DV-lottery will be drawn again later during this coming Oct, 2011 but there is still NO hope to give those EB-2/EB-3 applicants into this DV-lottery quota. If this quota is occupied by EB-2/EB-3 applicants, less applicants will be in GC line.

    Also, there is a proposed bill to allow foreign US accreditated universities' advanced graduates of STEM and with a US job offer to have GC but again it is NOT becomed a law yet. Also, your proposed EB-2/EB-3 applicants who have continuous stay of 8 years in US without criminal record to have GC may not fit the requirement of US needed because some of these EB-2/EB-3 applicants are NOT graduated in US universities and some of them are NOT in Science, Medicine, Engineering and Techology academic major which US society in demand.

    Last time I have read some other online news or forum, it talks about there is guy who was graduated in a US university with double Master degree---one is M.Sc in computer science and the other is MBA and he still get stuck in getting his first new H-1B visa and later he decided to back home without choice. Yesterday I have read some other online news or forum, it talks about some people who graduated in US Ph.D or doctorate degree in Science/Engineering/Medicine cannot get the GC or some of them get stuck in his or her first new H-1B visa application (due to quota was full or from other reasons) or get stuck in the H-1B visa renewed. So without H-1B visa, how can they get into the EB line for GC?----They are all US graduates and have stayed in US for more than 6-8 years to study with social security card and drivers' licenses and without criminal record !!!!!!!!!!!!!

    So you can see if your requested bill in #1) is working, so how about those who graduated in US university in Advanced degree of Science/Medicine/Engineering with US job offer or without H-1B visa?------They are US STEM graduates and have stayed in US with 6-8 years either study or work without criminal record (and with social security card and drivers' licenses)

    Personally, I do believe since US demand Science/Medicine/Engineering (STEM) type people and also need the inflow of money to rescue the national debt, so why don't allow those US STEM type graduates get the GC and bring the money to immigrate to start up companies to create job opportunities and to buy houses. Then the non-STEM graduates who want to stay in US can also go into the second path of immigration such as bring money to set up companies to hire 3-6 persons for better economy. The DV-lottery can open to any US STEM graduates to enrol online by " first come, first get" basis and if once annual immigration quota of 55,000 is filled, those graduates need to wait for another year to enrol online for immigration. So every STEM or non-STEM graduates bring money to start companies in US creating job opportunities, paying taxes and bring inflow of money----better economy is growing up.

    Moreover, those graduates will invite friends/relatives to visit US, increasing sales of both international and dosmetic airline tickets, hotel reservations, restaurant reservations and uplift the profits all kinds of retail businesses. Tourist visa fees will also add monetary income. Overall, inflow of money and jobs creation are dual powers to uplift the economy.
    With inflow of money from immigration, there is NO government shutdown and there is NO hiking taxes needed for the existing US companies.

    Also, in Australia, it allows foreign graduates who have stayed in Australia for over 5 years and without criminal record to get the GC automatically


    OK first of all this proposed bill has no relation to the DV lottery neither does it have any relation to H1B visa. We are talking about the people who are stuck in GC queue for 8 years or more. Which means we are referring to people you started their GC application 8 years ago and still waiting in queue without knowing when their number will come. I hope this clarifies your doubts. Just because you stayed legally for 8 years does not/should not qualify you for getting permanent residency, you have been legally here and paying taxes for the past 8 years there by contributing to the economic growth of the country and this should be the reason why the US govt should consider you for giving you permanent residency. Think about the kids of EB3 holders who are on H4 and want to join college after 16 years, They are not considered residents in US and there by all the international rules apply for their college studies. So much for being in US for 8 years or more and paying taxes to the government and contributing to the economic growth and you get to pay more and more. When illegals can get a DREAM ACT why not our kids? if you are married recently and had your kid born here in the US you might not understand this because your kid is a US citizen but it has a huge impact on EB category members whose kids are not born in the USA, just think about them.

    One has to start somewhere to achieve their goals without even trying to start how can we think this is not possible. I don't want to give any examples here but I would like to say that out motive should be to turn the IMPOSSIBLE to I'M POSSIBLE. Those who are with me please contribute. Critics are welcome without them we would never get new ideas for discussions.

    Wishing for the betterment of everyone in this forum!





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  • Humhongekamyab
    02-26 10:52 AM
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  • krupa
    05-11 03:48 PM
    This is not the healthy way of exchanging information and discussion among us. Make it all coulmns as required coulmns to become a member of this forum. There are so many members without furnishing the all the information and no one , I believe, disclosed their real name or identity. Asking a specific member to furnish all the details is not good. Do you think that you can shut the voice against subLb taking priority against others ?

    Before creating further rifts first fill in your profile and then blabber...





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  • GCStatus
    09-17 07:29 PM
    I thought this was already addressed just yesterday. I don't have the time to find the link.. could you try doing a search on this.

    Are you one of the admin or you know their secret locations?



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  • anilsal
    06-19 10:28 PM
    I think the Indian Passport offices give new passports with surname and first/given names. Check with the embassy.

    My brother in India recently went to get a new passport with the correct format.





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  • leo2606
    09-07 10:42 PM
    Sherman_tribiani buddy,

    Do you know how many rats do we need to keep around to become good leader?If you don't have answer can you go to your forefathers and check with them and get back to us?



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  • JazzByTheBay
    09-08 11:31 AM
    Signs of a maturing organization and community....

    It's always best to put oneself in the other person's shoes and see their point of view, if they have one.

    Having said that, I would urge IV members to not respond to such comments with inappropriate language or responses. Remember, this is an organization of "high-skilled professionals", and act like one.

    cheers, and see ya'll in DC!
    jazz

    he is just expressing concern that more action is not taken. i wrote param a pm to explain, also this thread will not continue indefinitely. we do however need to be clear in our stand and in our actions. we should be able to enunciate what we believe without resorting to the kind of vitriol that is thrown at us. personally i am waiting to see that- it's important even to grow as a community and achieve success that we develop this ability. our strength lies in the facts not in any hate or rhetoric.

    be rest assured that ip's of those that post such stuff are tracked for action.





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  • newbie2020
    02-27 07:52 AM
    Here is the dilemma.... The Idea is great...It can change our lives But if we sit on the idea for long it will rot So DO WE TAKE ACTION or LET US WAIT FOR CORE TO COME UP WITH SOLUTION. I would suggest we form a small committee or group of people who can brainstorm and come up with possible course of actions and then present the idea to core.

    This is similar to House->Judiciary committee -> Immigration sub Committee

    idea is to analyze the situation and come up with the best solution rather than waiting for
    CORE to act on.





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  • lskreddy
    12-19 09:55 AM
    mine. Thanks for your efforts...





    gc_aspirant_prasad
    09-07 11:50 PM
    Guys : dont waste time replying to this guy's comments. Spend time convincing your friends to make it to DC. If you cannot go personally, sponsor someone.
    If you have Universities in your area, check with the local students if they want to go.
    Try your level best to get maximum attendance at the rally.





    suriajay12
    04-11 11:19 AM
    Hi PotatoEater !!

    What you said may be true for case like some who really applied in Nov 01 is waiting and someone who applied in Jul 07 with a substituted labor of Sep 01 got it. It ends there.
    Those are a few lucky fellows, but did it legally.
    That doesnt solve much of the backlogs problem even if that didnt happen. Analyze the situation in May 07. It was horrible, right.
    It was luck AILA and other groups including IV could contribute to keep the dates current for that month, for our benefit



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