forever_waiting
04-22 09:14 PM
Cmon dude. We expect a better example to back up your argument.
The example you state is a violation of anyone's civil rights...leave alone an immigrant.
To use your example, no one is "raping" the applicant by imposing a per-country limit on your green card application and making you wait a few years while you work in the country and enjoy all civil rights.
Congress used the power given to them by the Constitution to frame Immigration laws and they created a formula for regulation. Per-country limit is that formula which they had the constitutional right to create in order to uphold the balance of immigration in their country. Getting a GC is not anyone's right..its a privelege bestowed based on the applicant meeting certain criteria which includes quotas, as per the country's laws. There is NO civil rights impact. You are getting your green card in the end...only problem is they are making you wait 10 years because of that formula. But none of your civil rights are being impinged upon. So we should work to change flawed law and the formula rather than try to muddle the issue with civil rights. No matter what extreme example you give, you will still never be able to prove that your civil rights were impinged because you are having to wait for 10 years in a legal queue while your application is pending.
Don't get caught up trying to defend a stance no matter how irrelevant it may be. Its better we focus our time and effort on more achievable and valid provisions.
Good Luck to you.
They used the power. No problem. But how?
Let me quote an extreme example.
If they make a law saying, a foreign woman may be raped at port of entry in exchange for citizenship, will it stand?
NOW do you see the connection between immigration and civil rights?
The example you state is a violation of anyone's civil rights...leave alone an immigrant.
To use your example, no one is "raping" the applicant by imposing a per-country limit on your green card application and making you wait a few years while you work in the country and enjoy all civil rights.
Congress used the power given to them by the Constitution to frame Immigration laws and they created a formula for regulation. Per-country limit is that formula which they had the constitutional right to create in order to uphold the balance of immigration in their country. Getting a GC is not anyone's right..its a privelege bestowed based on the applicant meeting certain criteria which includes quotas, as per the country's laws. There is NO civil rights impact. You are getting your green card in the end...only problem is they are making you wait 10 years because of that formula. But none of your civil rights are being impinged upon. So we should work to change flawed law and the formula rather than try to muddle the issue with civil rights. No matter what extreme example you give, you will still never be able to prove that your civil rights were impinged because you are having to wait for 10 years in a legal queue while your application is pending.
Don't get caught up trying to defend a stance no matter how irrelevant it may be. Its better we focus our time and effort on more achievable and valid provisions.
Good Luck to you.
They used the power. No problem. But how?
Let me quote an extreme example.
If they make a law saying, a foreign woman may be raped at port of entry in exchange for citizenship, will it stand?
NOW do you see the connection between immigration and civil rights?
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alterego
11-27 07:38 PM
I am a highly skilled professional working in this state providing a valuable service. I have a green card petition pending. Those like Lou Dobbs oppose migration of those of my kind, virtually any kind. Please tell me why? What do I tell my grateful patients, about this self acclaimed patriot?
His is an agenda against all immigration. He just finds the most convenient arguments now against illegal immigration. Let me explain, I am on H1b visa, he criticizes that as well. My conclusion is he wants me to leave too. Ask him to name one kind of immigration he is for.
His is an agenda against all immigration. I trust America can see past it. Recently I went to an upper end car dealership in Detroit to buy a car. The dealer there commented that if it were not for professionals like myself buying his cars, his dealership would struggle. I'm not sure why Lou Dobbs does not wish to understand that. He is certainly smart enough to do so. Perhaps he does not want to understand. He preys on the worst fears of people, instead of building on their optimism. That is not what got this country where it is. If this country were full of Lou Dobbs, frankly I would not want to be part of it. Fortunately, I believe it is not.
His is an agenda against all immigration. He just finds the most convenient arguments now against illegal immigration. Let me explain, I am on H1b visa, he criticizes that as well. My conclusion is he wants me to leave too. Ask him to name one kind of immigration he is for.
His is an agenda against all immigration. I trust America can see past it. Recently I went to an upper end car dealership in Detroit to buy a car. The dealer there commented that if it were not for professionals like myself buying his cars, his dealership would struggle. I'm not sure why Lou Dobbs does not wish to understand that. He is certainly smart enough to do so. Perhaps he does not want to understand. He preys on the worst fears of people, instead of building on their optimism. That is not what got this country where it is. If this country were full of Lou Dobbs, frankly I would not want to be part of it. Fortunately, I believe it is not.
qplearn
11-16 02:06 PM
He hates Illegals and not legal immigrants. I almost have heard him everyday going back home from work and all the time I have heard him saying there are people who legallly coming here for work that he supports. He always has been against "Amnesty" to Illegal Immigrants.
It may be worth a try. Its up to you seniors if you feel its not worth it.
I am not senior in any way; seniority is based on the number of posts. I just expressed my opinion. He is certainly better than people like Lou.
It may be worth a try. Its up to you seniors if you feel its not worth it.
I am not senior in any way; seniority is based on the number of posts. I just expressed my opinion. He is certainly better than people like Lou.
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aviko21
09-29 12:46 PM
Please consult a good lawyer rather than worry yourself crazy. The thing is that you don;t know what the problem is yet! So you can;t find a solution till you know more!
Please do post what your lawyer finds out
Please do post what your lawyer finds out
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induabhay
01-13 08:49 PM
Folks
Is there any person on IB who can express concern vividly and also suggest solutions eloquently? Also is there anybody else with media contacts who can get this person some prime time explosure? What do you guys think about the idea? IB has been doing a good job of pushing our case with the legislature. Should we now look at puhsing the case with media?
Is there any person on IB who can express concern vividly and also suggest solutions eloquently? Also is there anybody else with media contacts who can get this person some prime time explosure? What do you guys think about the idea? IB has been doing a good job of pushing our case with the legislature. Should we now look at puhsing the case with media?
burnt
04-09 12:30 AM
I received a call from my lawyer last week saying he got a call from USCIS asking the lawyer whether my wife got the TB Skin test done or not, as she did not get it originally as we were expecting our child at the moment.
I sent the lawyer the scanned copy of the TB skin test results and posted him the sealed envelope separately yesterday, which he was planning on Faxing over to USCIS. Today I saw a soft LUD on my wife's I-485.
Don't know what this means? Its hard to belive that my Lawyer is so proactive to send the fax right away. And I can't believe that someone at USCIS actually updated my wifes case after lawyers response...
So don't know whats going on there... Friends whats meant by pre-adjudication?
I sent the lawyer the scanned copy of the TB skin test results and posted him the sealed envelope separately yesterday, which he was planning on Faxing over to USCIS. Today I saw a soft LUD on my wife's I-485.
Don't know what this means? Its hard to belive that my Lawyer is so proactive to send the fax right away. And I can't believe that someone at USCIS actually updated my wifes case after lawyers response...
So don't know whats going on there... Friends whats meant by pre-adjudication?
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gk_2000
04-22 11:05 AM
This is truly unfair where country of birth determined who gets an 'Employment' based greencard before someone else. It can only be fixed by eliminating per-country limits.
A question -- has IV considered challenging the country quota in court? Because the Constitution forbids discrimination based on country of origin..
A question -- has IV considered challenging the country quota in court? Because the Constitution forbids discrimination based on country of origin..
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forever_waiting
04-22 07:13 PM
Ok. But how does this apply to immigration?
On the page you quote, below is what I see -
The Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice enforces federal laws that prohibit discrimination in:
Education
Employment
Housing
Lending
Public Accommodations
Law Enforcement / Police Misconduct
Voting
The "per-country limit" is definitely unfair within the realm of employment-based immigration due to the outdated and irrelevant law which needs reform. However skewing this to make it a civil rights issue is pushing it a bit too much.
So coming back to Immigration (which is what, I believe, we are discussing), below is what I came across on congress.gov.
The Supreme Court has ruled that the Congressional power to regulate naturalization, from Article 1, Section 8, includes the power to regulate immigration (see, for example, Hampton v. Mow Sun Wong, 426 U.S. 88 [1976]
In other words, the Constitution does not specifically mention immigration but based on the above, delegates power to the Congress to pass laws to regulate immigration. This Article of the Constitution also clarifies the part about rules for immigrants and quotas being set at the Federal level and not State level.
The above is a fact, not my opinion. Therefore, No - I do not agree that your reasoning has any direct parallel to our case since the correct approach and reasoning involves challenging a Supreme Court Ruling on Article 1 of the Constitution, which you would agree is next to impossible.
Thanks for asking this. I found this: Civil Rights Division Home Page (http://www.justice.gov/crt/legalinfo/natorigin.php)
IMO, rather useful in our discussion, though not relating to the constitution. But if you insist, I might point you to the 14th amendment ...
Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitu tion)
Read the "Equal protection clause". It mentions this case:
The Court has also struck down redistricting plans in which race was a key consideration. In Shaw v. Reno (1993), the Court prohibited a North Carolina plan aimed at creating majority-black districts to balance historic underrepresentation in the state's congressional delegations
Do you agree that we can draw a direct parallel of this case to our case, where they are segregating visa numbers based on the country of origin?
On the page you quote, below is what I see -
The Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice enforces federal laws that prohibit discrimination in:
Education
Employment
Housing
Lending
Public Accommodations
Law Enforcement / Police Misconduct
Voting
The "per-country limit" is definitely unfair within the realm of employment-based immigration due to the outdated and irrelevant law which needs reform. However skewing this to make it a civil rights issue is pushing it a bit too much.
So coming back to Immigration (which is what, I believe, we are discussing), below is what I came across on congress.gov.
The Supreme Court has ruled that the Congressional power to regulate naturalization, from Article 1, Section 8, includes the power to regulate immigration (see, for example, Hampton v. Mow Sun Wong, 426 U.S. 88 [1976]
In other words, the Constitution does not specifically mention immigration but based on the above, delegates power to the Congress to pass laws to regulate immigration. This Article of the Constitution also clarifies the part about rules for immigrants and quotas being set at the Federal level and not State level.
The above is a fact, not my opinion. Therefore, No - I do not agree that your reasoning has any direct parallel to our case since the correct approach and reasoning involves challenging a Supreme Court Ruling on Article 1 of the Constitution, which you would agree is next to impossible.
Thanks for asking this. I found this: Civil Rights Division Home Page (http://www.justice.gov/crt/legalinfo/natorigin.php)
IMO, rather useful in our discussion, though not relating to the constitution. But if you insist, I might point you to the 14th amendment ...
Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitu tion)
Read the "Equal protection clause". It mentions this case:
The Court has also struck down redistricting plans in which race was a key consideration. In Shaw v. Reno (1993), the Court prohibited a North Carolina plan aimed at creating majority-black districts to balance historic underrepresentation in the state's congressional delegations
Do you agree that we can draw a direct parallel of this case to our case, where they are segregating visa numbers based on the country of origin?
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shyamiv
08-25 01:21 PM
ICICI Bank has started a 'Express Pay' service in which your monety gets transferred in 1-2 day but they charge 5 $ for that.
I think you might have selected that option while transferring. Thats the first option ...
My experience is even their 'Express Pay' service is a rip off unless you have experienced otherwise first hand !
I think you might have selected that option while transferring. Thats the first option ...
My experience is even their 'Express Pay' service is a rip off unless you have experienced otherwise first hand !
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old_hat
05-12 05:03 PM
This might come as a surprise to some of you, but someone needs to say it out loud. GET A LIFE FOLKS!!!! there is more to life then EB, GC and all. it seem all we desi's can think of is how to get a green card so we can live here with peace and never have to worry bout getting laid off or anything.
Few points:
1) having gc is a privilege not a right.
2) US has every right to choose whom they want to have in their country.
3) If getting PR or citizenship of a western country is the goal there are many countries which have a fair point based system.
4) Considering the number of fraud's committed by Indian body shoppers and people who use them, i am not surprised USCIS is extra careful when it comes to Indian applications. Anyone who got his wife with no exp with software dev an h1b visa from some cheat in Jersey knows what i am talking bout . My freind got his wife an H1 after showing she knew software testing even though her major was fine arts and all she was good at was web surfing :)
5) have a back up. i came here in 2001 as student and have seen it all. I am on h1b since 2004. i knew we have too many people whose sole aim in life is a American GC. to avoid becoming one of those who check processing dates first thing in morning, i applied for Canadian PR, got it in 8 months and i am not even gonna bother applying for labor, i-140 and all those precious life controlling documents.
Wake up friends, you have options. Don't let your life depend on you application status.
Nitin
People of every country have the right to get whoever they want. The only question is are those rules clear and also are the decisions being made for the correct reasons. If they announce that they do not want to give GCs to anyone people will make up their minds if they want to go now or whenever there visa expires based on their personal situation.
Few points:
1) having gc is a privilege not a right.
2) US has every right to choose whom they want to have in their country.
3) If getting PR or citizenship of a western country is the goal there are many countries which have a fair point based system.
4) Considering the number of fraud's committed by Indian body shoppers and people who use them, i am not surprised USCIS is extra careful when it comes to Indian applications. Anyone who got his wife with no exp with software dev an h1b visa from some cheat in Jersey knows what i am talking bout . My freind got his wife an H1 after showing she knew software testing even though her major was fine arts and all she was good at was web surfing :)
5) have a back up. i came here in 2001 as student and have seen it all. I am on h1b since 2004. i knew we have too many people whose sole aim in life is a American GC. to avoid becoming one of those who check processing dates first thing in morning, i applied for Canadian PR, got it in 8 months and i am not even gonna bother applying for labor, i-140 and all those precious life controlling documents.
Wake up friends, you have options. Don't let your life depend on you application status.
Nitin
People of every country have the right to get whoever they want. The only question is are those rules clear and also are the decisions being made for the correct reasons. If they announce that they do not want to give GCs to anyone people will make up their minds if they want to go now or whenever there visa expires based on their personal situation.
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ita
08-25 10:13 PM
Second the idea of using an ATM card for this purpose. You can get an ATM card for your parents or relatives in India from your local credit union or bank in the US.
Can you suggest some credit unions please.
Thank you.
Can you suggest some credit unions please.
Thank you.
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Date Delivered To USCIS: July 2
Time Delivered To USCIS: 7.55 AM
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immiusa
06-17 11:48 AM
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No insurance covers pre-existing condition
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Leo07
12-03 11:51 AM
I can understand where you are coming from...with only few people participating in the core efforts and many people commenting on the efforts online. I can agree to that part.
However, we must not under play the fact that an organizations of need-based and issue based type ALWAYS has floating members.
For example....if your GC gets approved tomorrow...I'll bet that you'll not care less about the forum.
Best!
IMO, this is the biggest problem plaguing IV - perception of IV as just another online forum (community) or a "chat room" as a newspaper reporter put it ! (http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071123/NEWS07/711230422/1009) (under the heading "Taking Action").
This point IV = chat room has come to the fore, several times in discussions. A lot of persons have refused to join IV efforts with the ruse "IV is just an online forum where members discuss mundane matters". Whether someone admits it or not, IV has a serious image problem !. It needs to be corrected soon (by more than making another announcement type "We are not a forum" post !)
Strength of an(y) organization comes from contributing, active members. And not from MINOWs (Members-In-Name-Only Wusses)
However, we must not under play the fact that an organizations of need-based and issue based type ALWAYS has floating members.
For example....if your GC gets approved tomorrow...I'll bet that you'll not care less about the forum.
Best!
IMO, this is the biggest problem plaguing IV - perception of IV as just another online forum (community) or a "chat room" as a newspaper reporter put it ! (http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071123/NEWS07/711230422/1009) (under the heading "Taking Action").
This point IV = chat room has come to the fore, several times in discussions. A lot of persons have refused to join IV efforts with the ruse "IV is just an online forum where members discuss mundane matters". Whether someone admits it or not, IV has a serious image problem !. It needs to be corrected soon (by more than making another announcement type "We are not a forum" post !)
Strength of an(y) organization comes from contributing, active members. And not from MINOWs (Members-In-Name-Only Wusses)
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walking_dude
11-14 02:42 PM
Keeping our differences on Alexander asides :), thanks for doing the right thing. I greatly appreciate you doing it though you don't live in Michigan.
I totally agree with you on this hypocrite Lou Dobbs and also admire your determination and sticking to your views. I too belive that we can make a change if we are determined. I have written my views to the radio station eventhough I don't listen to that channel as I live somewhere far. I hate to side track the issue but I couldn't control my self to accept that Alexander was great( that apprears in your posts) I stongly belive that he was not great but was a coward (I came to conclusion after reviewing the history)
I totally agree with you on this hypocrite Lou Dobbs and also admire your determination and sticking to your views. I too belive that we can make a change if we are determined. I have written my views to the radio station eventhough I don't listen to that channel as I live somewhere far. I hate to side track the issue but I couldn't control my self to accept that Alexander was great( that apprears in your posts) I stongly belive that he was not great but was a coward (I came to conclusion after reviewing the history)
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sc3
08-11 06:02 PM
I think some members have put their votes in wrong bucket.
Please check bucket BEFORE NOV 2002 and click on each member you will see some members from PD 2006 put their votes in this bucket.
Profile just displays Labor approval date, not application date. But interesting observation. Some have approval date of Nov 2002 -- so very possible that their PD is much earlier.
Please check bucket BEFORE NOV 2002 and click on each member you will see some members from PD 2006 put their votes in this bucket.
Profile just displays Labor approval date, not application date. But interesting observation. Some have approval date of Nov 2002 -- so very possible that their PD is much earlier.
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gsc999
07-21 12:57 AM
gimmi green - Don't you see green around you. Let me tell you how to get green
1) Use your credit history to purchase additional home in Florida. House purchase in 150000 will be 250000 in year. The market was like that a year back. It takes 8 months to get a house. There is a big line.
2) Open your own e-business. File E visa. 1/4 million should be easy money if you have stayed here for 10 years.
3) House listing in only done by realtor. Give option to customer. For fun open a site for people to list their house for sale. Give them free service then charge. Live American way.
4) Make school in Village. I have made one. I enjoy supporting the school. Grow India.
5) Don't worry about GC. Do something. Registering a site takes some $35 or 40. Built you site. Use American brain.
Am I doing it? Yes.. Did I make money? Yes.
Ensoy.
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The current housing market condition are totally opposite to what you say about housing markets, especially in states like Florida, California etc. American economy is slowing because of cooling ( eventual bubble burst?) in the housing markets and because of high inflationery pressure. Most economists agree with this view only people still propogating the myth of house ownership as an investment are Realtors and "Flippers" looking to unload their houses on ignorant suckers. People made money, yes, but that was upto mid that is when housing market peaked. It has been on sequential monthly decline since than. Buying house as an investment in current economic conditions is bad advise. Save money and wait till late 2007 or early 2008.
1) Use your credit history to purchase additional home in Florida. House purchase in 150000 will be 250000 in year. The market was like that a year back. It takes 8 months to get a house. There is a big line.
2) Open your own e-business. File E visa. 1/4 million should be easy money if you have stayed here for 10 years.
3) House listing in only done by realtor. Give option to customer. For fun open a site for people to list their house for sale. Give them free service then charge. Live American way.
4) Make school in Village. I have made one. I enjoy supporting the school. Grow India.
5) Don't worry about GC. Do something. Registering a site takes some $35 or 40. Built you site. Use American brain.
Am I doing it? Yes.. Did I make money? Yes.
Ensoy.
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The current housing market condition are totally opposite to what you say about housing markets, especially in states like Florida, California etc. American economy is slowing because of cooling ( eventual bubble burst?) in the housing markets and because of high inflationery pressure. Most economists agree with this view only people still propogating the myth of house ownership as an investment are Realtors and "Flippers" looking to unload their houses on ignorant suckers. People made money, yes, but that was upto mid that is when housing market peaked. It has been on sequential monthly decline since than. Buying house as an investment in current economic conditions is bad advise. Save money and wait till late 2007 or early 2008.
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anandrajesh
02-13 01:55 PM
Same thing applies to US congress. They dont set their timetable of bills based on morality and merits. There are other factors.
Like it or not i am becoming a big fan of your posts. There is more logic to your life than ppl who question you and ur Core Team's Selfless efforts.
Lot of ppl do overlook that this is a grassroots organization with severe limitations. Those who sling mud at these ppl, If you cant appreciate what the core does, pls dont curse them. It is not for your or our Good.
My only worry is that these CORE members get discouraged with numerous flaming posts and drop out of this noble cause.
If that happens there will be nobody to work for us. :(
Like it or not i am becoming a big fan of your posts. There is more logic to your life than ppl who question you and ur Core Team's Selfless efforts.
Lot of ppl do overlook that this is a grassroots organization with severe limitations. Those who sling mud at these ppl, If you cant appreciate what the core does, pls dont curse them. It is not for your or our Good.
My only worry is that these CORE members get discouraged with numerous flaming posts and drop out of this noble cause.
If that happens there will be nobody to work for us. :(
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srikondoji
04-26 03:09 PM
How do i do it?
Give me the paypal email id to send money to.
Thanks
sri
Give me the paypal email id to send money to.
Thanks
sri
saketh555
07-30 06:13 PM
Atleast you are taking a break from immigration.
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I do swing trade and my portfolio consists only biomedical stocks which are around couple of bucks(can't efford more than that):D.
pointlesswait
09-24 10:13 AM
this guy has been venting out his anger aganist IV for quiet a while..i wouldnt bother much abt him...
must be personal..so iggy him!
must be personal..so iggy him!