GCNirvana007
08-11 01:04 PM
Dear Lord please listen to dwhuser. I have the same concern
dwhuser, did you see any LUD in recent month or any RFE
I am EB2 Dec 2004
I saw an LUD in June this yr
dwhuser, did you see any LUD in recent month or any RFE
I am EB2 Dec 2004
I saw an LUD in June this yr
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485Mbe4001
09-14 05:19 PM
There is a lot of work done in the background and by the state chapters that you may not be aware of. for example when i was a member of a state chapter a volunteer printed 5000 pamplets and we spent a weekend distributing them. One volunteer was actively involved in collecting and mailing out letters for the letter writing campaingn. there are some who visit every temple and talk about IV. These people dont post on the forums or beg for red, blue or green dots, they do the best they can. On the other hand many come to the forums with a 'grand plan' and hope someone else will doe the rest. Most are so self absorbed that they would rather spend time debating how their application is superior and how they should get GCs first. The same people end up volunteering each time while the rest demand answers and ask why bills are not passed. I can also give specific examples of people who posted that they participated in a campaign simply to get green dots. The final straw for me was the EB2 Vs EB3. Each person has his/her threshold, and i am positive that the core will feel the same way some day.
I am sorry to say this Pappu, but honestly I do feel one thing. There are some things that IV can do without spending money(which I think are not being done). For example, it can lead everybody everybody to send letters to USCIS and congressmen and the press for justice highlighting abrupt actions of USCIS. I made so many pamphlets in the thread "Lets get Organized" which can be sent alongwith to make an impact. It is not about eb2 or eb3, it is about accountability and transparency from USCIS. It does not involve any money from anybody excepting a 41 cents stamp on the letter which I think most of people should be ready to spend. However, the push from IV seems to be missing.
I am sorry to say this Pappu, but honestly I do feel one thing. There are some things that IV can do without spending money(which I think are not being done). For example, it can lead everybody everybody to send letters to USCIS and congressmen and the press for justice highlighting abrupt actions of USCIS. I made so many pamphlets in the thread "Lets get Organized" which can be sent alongwith to make an impact. It is not about eb2 or eb3, it is about accountability and transparency from USCIS. It does not involve any money from anybody excepting a 41 cents stamp on the letter which I think most of people should be ready to spend. However, the push from IV seems to be missing.
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09-15 08:25 AM
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08-22 01:49 PM
This Guy Oh is just like one of us.......gossip mongers!!! Guys...take it easy.....worry about things u have control over and like Sean Hannity says "Let not your heart be troubled"!!!
IMO, It ain't cool to follow Hannity dude...:p But my heart is troubled for you...:(
IMO, It ain't cool to follow Hannity dude...:p But my heart is troubled for you...:(
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gc_check
04-13 10:38 PM
Do you or anyone who thinks that backlogs are due to labor substitution have any proof to claim so ?
Even if there were some, they definitely won't be in large numbers. First of all to use a sub labor, one labor had to become available. Do you think there were so many labors floating around to grab one ? I don't think so.
How come EB3 ROW went "U" if all the backlog was due to labor subs ?
Well, There are many people still waiting for GC with original labor and not substitute labor with PD 2003 or prior to that. I'm not saying Sub Labor is the only reason, but it is one of the reason. Even though they are few...the impact is big... With 7% per country limit and visa numbers looks like would not spill over to EB3 due to demand in EB2 and other categories, even very few (say 3000 - 6000 labor sub applications) could consume a year or 2 years worth of visa numbers for this category for retro countries.... Even each family member (dependent) would consume a visa... with atleat 2 visa per applicant, 3000 - 5000 total EB3 labor sub could easily consume 2 years quote... if you count all.. then the "U" in VB might make sense... For EB3 ROW, there are lotz of people from Canada, S. Korea, Thailand, Australia, UK etc, and it went 'U' from 2003... The dates could move well for ROW... but for retrogressed country, I do not see the bright side yet.... Also the 485 PD was current for all categories almost all of 2003 & 2004 till Dec 31 2004, It retrogressed starting from Jan 2005 and later.... Also, the total 140,000 is for all EB categories. The 3000 - 5000 is just a conservative realistic guess.. not based on any data. Do the Math !!! You might agree !!!
Even if there were some, they definitely won't be in large numbers. First of all to use a sub labor, one labor had to become available. Do you think there were so many labors floating around to grab one ? I don't think so.
How come EB3 ROW went "U" if all the backlog was due to labor subs ?
Well, There are many people still waiting for GC with original labor and not substitute labor with PD 2003 or prior to that. I'm not saying Sub Labor is the only reason, but it is one of the reason. Even though they are few...the impact is big... With 7% per country limit and visa numbers looks like would not spill over to EB3 due to demand in EB2 and other categories, even very few (say 3000 - 6000 labor sub applications) could consume a year or 2 years worth of visa numbers for this category for retro countries.... Even each family member (dependent) would consume a visa... with atleat 2 visa per applicant, 3000 - 5000 total EB3 labor sub could easily consume 2 years quote... if you count all.. then the "U" in VB might make sense... For EB3 ROW, there are lotz of people from Canada, S. Korea, Thailand, Australia, UK etc, and it went 'U' from 2003... The dates could move well for ROW... but for retrogressed country, I do not see the bright side yet.... Also the 485 PD was current for all categories almost all of 2003 & 2004 till Dec 31 2004, It retrogressed starting from Jan 2005 and later.... Also, the total 140,000 is for all EB categories. The 3000 - 5000 is just a conservative realistic guess.. not based on any data. Do the Math !!! You might agree !!!
zazona.com
09-07 11:59 PM
good work Sherman_tribiani, i am watching this group of "highly skilled job stealer” for sometime. they merely talk and do nothing. most of them r scared to do anything. they r scared of u & me. they r not scared when they steal our jobs and we will scare the hell out these ba$tard$ to make them do in their pants before we kick them out. gheen told me about this group and he also said that not to waste my time on these job stealers as they r weak and incapable of doing anything, other than stealing our jobs and outsourcing.
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radhagd
04-11 09:52 AM
I'm not sure if I'm eligible to apply for Master's quota. I'm done with all my degree requirements and I've scheduled my thesis defence on MAy 20th. Is it still possible that I can apply in Master's quota. I've a letter from my schools which states that I'm done with all my degree requirements and I'll be finishing thesis on May 20th. Is this letter enough to apply for MAsters??
since master's quota is still available, you can apply now. some lawyers say you can apply with that letter from school.Later if you get RFE you can submit your masters degree at that time. Anyways talk to your lawyer
since master's quota is still available, you can apply now. some lawyers say you can apply with that letter from school.Later if you get RFE you can submit your masters degree at that time. Anyways talk to your lawyer
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newbie2020
02-25 12:02 PM
The idea needs to be taken to the next step, How about a conference call....I can provide a Bridge for the call
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04-25 07:24 AM
I completed my MS in Computer Science from US around 6 years back, was on OPT for a year & thereafter moved out of US & came back to my home town. Have been working here for 6 years now in the software field & have now applied for H1B under masters Quota. Was wondering if I am eligible to apply under this quota as I am neither a fresh masters graduate nor have any status in the US. Also, my lawyer has only filled out the I-129 form. Is there any special form that needs to be filled out to be considered for Master's quota?
Please reply�:rolleyes:
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dvb123
07-09 08:10 PM
I understand that IV leadership is agains't lawsuits because they take time. However most of the timelines immigration lawsuits are of 1 to 2 years time.
http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/06pdf/05-547.pdf
http://neuro.law.cornell.edu/supct/search/display.html?terms=illegal%20immigration&url=/supct/html/00-767.ZS.html
http://neuro.law.cornell.edu/supct/search/search.html?query=illegal+immigration&scope=onlysyllabi
We have a number of things to argue in a lawsuit. One can be the double dipping thing that a USCIS official himself agreed.
http://www.murthy.com/news/n_empbas.html
Then the lost visa numbers due to USCIS inefficiency can also be argued. There is a slim chance of visa bills being passed. Those people who are counting on Comprehensive Immigration Reform bill to pass there is a very slim chance also because Zoe Longfren herself told in a TV interview that anti immigrant groups are very strong now. The OPT lawsuit is the best example of hue and cry that anti immigrant groups are making.
http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/06pdf/05-547.pdf
http://neuro.law.cornell.edu/supct/search/display.html?terms=illegal%20immigration&url=/supct/html/00-767.ZS.html
http://neuro.law.cornell.edu/supct/search/search.html?query=illegal+immigration&scope=onlysyllabi
We have a number of things to argue in a lawsuit. One can be the double dipping thing that a USCIS official himself agreed.
http://www.murthy.com/news/n_empbas.html
Then the lost visa numbers due to USCIS inefficiency can also be argued. There is a slim chance of visa bills being passed. Those people who are counting on Comprehensive Immigration Reform bill to pass there is a very slim chance also because Zoe Longfren herself told in a TV interview that anti immigrant groups are very strong now. The OPT lawsuit is the best example of hue and cry that anti immigrant groups are making.
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unitednations
02-05 12:04 AM
Having diversity AND country quota for skilled employment is affirmative action gone waco. EB skilled immigration is to allow businesses to hire foreign labor for jobs they can't find American Citizens. Now to restrict businesses to discriminate based on the country of birth is just riduculous. Next do Universities apply affirmative action to their international student recruitement?
Indians and Chinese make up the largest group of international students in Engineering and Science. US citizens make up less than 50% of those graduating in Science and Engineering in Master's and PhD programs. Now businesses should not be penalized if they can't fill their highly skilled jobs with Iranians and Tongans and any other ROW countries.
We have a diversity lottery for nationals of those countries who would not make it out on merit and need a leg up. There may be a few Indian consulting companies who favor Indians, but they are the people who pay wages and know best. Similarly just because Americans prefer to buy Japanese cars we can't create an "affirmative action" and prevent americans from buying Japanese cars. We can't prevent walmart from stocking chinese products. So why force employers not to hire Indians and Chinese through creating quotas for highly skilled jobs?
No meaningful immigration reforms can be achieved as long as skilled immigration is based on country quotas. Next we know there will be quotas for marrying foreigners to add to diversity. If you marry a mexican there is retrogression but if you marry a citizen of Vanuatu then green card is processed in ROW:)
I was just making my point how ridiculous it is to have quotas for skilled immigration but not for others including asylum cases.
I'm not saying it is right. I think there should be no quotas; diversity or otherwise. It should follow normal business practices. Can't find american, we need you now you start working. This is how it works in everyday business.
However; we need to understand why doesn't immigration follow normal business practices. is it that we place more value on our contributions then what the country does. Is EB just another route to get people here like family, asylum, refugees, etc?
Although it may sound ridiculous but why is everyone want to put any limits to it. If proper controls can be put in place that there are genuine jobs and candidates are genuine then there shouldn't be any limits. How come no one wants to go for this solution. It actually makes more sense then just increasing the quota or not including dependents, etc.
Indians and Chinese make up the largest group of international students in Engineering and Science. US citizens make up less than 50% of those graduating in Science and Engineering in Master's and PhD programs. Now businesses should not be penalized if they can't fill their highly skilled jobs with Iranians and Tongans and any other ROW countries.
We have a diversity lottery for nationals of those countries who would not make it out on merit and need a leg up. There may be a few Indian consulting companies who favor Indians, but they are the people who pay wages and know best. Similarly just because Americans prefer to buy Japanese cars we can't create an "affirmative action" and prevent americans from buying Japanese cars. We can't prevent walmart from stocking chinese products. So why force employers not to hire Indians and Chinese through creating quotas for highly skilled jobs?
No meaningful immigration reforms can be achieved as long as skilled immigration is based on country quotas. Next we know there will be quotas for marrying foreigners to add to diversity. If you marry a mexican there is retrogression but if you marry a citizen of Vanuatu then green card is processed in ROW:)
I was just making my point how ridiculous it is to have quotas for skilled immigration but not for others including asylum cases.
I'm not saying it is right. I think there should be no quotas; diversity or otherwise. It should follow normal business practices. Can't find american, we need you now you start working. This is how it works in everyday business.
However; we need to understand why doesn't immigration follow normal business practices. is it that we place more value on our contributions then what the country does. Is EB just another route to get people here like family, asylum, refugees, etc?
Although it may sound ridiculous but why is everyone want to put any limits to it. If proper controls can be put in place that there are genuine jobs and candidates are genuine then there shouldn't be any limits. How come no one wants to go for this solution. It actually makes more sense then just increasing the quota or not including dependents, etc.
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BharatPremi
11-16 01:26 PM
Not sure...but I have $50 recurring thru paypal...not sure how I did that, there should be an option...
I added the word "One Time" on above post.
I added the word "One Time" on above post.
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amitps
09-08 12:52 AM
Wonder why your database is still under construction? Not enough skilled people around to do the so called construction? Maybe temporary workers?
http://zazona.com/LCA-Data/DataMaintenance.htm
The same logic applies to every business in the US that is trying to rely on temporary workers to meet the demands of a global economy.
Stop the following - this is my country, that is your country, this is our job, that is your job. Think of a global economy.
Great point - but if these people could think about global economy - why would they even start such threads..they are LOOSERS....
http://zazona.com/LCA-Data/DataMaintenance.htm
The same logic applies to every business in the US that is trying to rely on temporary workers to meet the demands of a global economy.
Stop the following - this is my country, that is your country, this is our job, that is your job. Think of a global economy.
Great point - but if these people could think about global economy - why would they even start such threads..they are LOOSERS....
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gireep
07-17 08:35 PM
Thanks IV Team for your great effort.
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senram
04-17 09:34 AM
This is a good idea. But tough to sell unless basic policy is changed. In USA any immigration has limit in numbers except a few category like spouses of US citizens. It is difficult to change that. When you put 8 years that means unlimited green cards. If they do that universities like TVU will be running full capacity and new universities will be started similar to that. Actually there should be some system to clean up univerity admission and also H1B so that genuine persons can come here easily.
Anyhow it is good idea to bring a bill like this and and see what happens. Still bills like recapture or modest rise of GC numbers will have a better chance of passing in congress
not a bad idea... but mind you they will be more for undocumented workers
Anyhow it is good idea to bring a bill like this and and see what happens. Still bills like recapture or modest rise of GC numbers will have a better chance of passing in congress
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chanduv23
04-11 10:50 AM
This is the sad reality. A lot of people applied using sub labor during the June and July fiasco. A lot of people made it through the July 15th deadline by atleast filing a 140 through sub labor.
Now USCIS is processing all these 140s and as they have old dates, they are becoming approvable.
As long as there are visas with old dates approvable - USICS will exhaust them. As long as USCIS exhausts old visas, DOS need not move the dates forward.
Now USCIS is processing all these 140s and as they have old dates, they are becoming approvable.
As long as there are visas with old dates approvable - USICS will exhaust them. As long as USCIS exhausts old visas, DOS need not move the dates forward.
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pappu
02-27 03:16 PM
I am going to take the liberty of putting together an agenda for the conference call, just to make it more productive. I can play scribe for the call.
The call will be for a maximum of 60 mins, unless someone wants to take it longer than that.
1. Quick introductions - State your name - GC application stage. - 10 mins
2. Brainstorming session -- 20 mins
2. Volunteers who want to be part of the smaller sub-group need to come forward. -- 5 mins
This is purely to get thoughts/ideas streamlined. Everybody needs to chip in once the action plans are drafted.
3. Volunteers to exchange contact information. -- 10 mins
4. Miscellaneous -- 15 mins (if needed)
Please add more items if you feel they are necessary.
I will try to scrape all the ideas generated in this thread and will summarize for the call. If anyone wants to post more ideas/comments/suggestions/criticisms, go right ahead and post.
Good idea to have a conference call.
Create a team of people who want to actively take part in such effort. These people will be leaders and will do all the planning and execution.
We will provide support for the functioning of this team.
Work on various ideas and see if they can be implemented, are as per current law and regulations.... What kind of budget do you need and can help raise etc.
We will provide guidance during the process if you need it. Also explore the possibility of a big lobby day in DC and create a team of participants for it. We see this event as a possibility in the near future to push our advocacy efforts.
The call will be for a maximum of 60 mins, unless someone wants to take it longer than that.
1. Quick introductions - State your name - GC application stage. - 10 mins
2. Brainstorming session -- 20 mins
2. Volunteers who want to be part of the smaller sub-group need to come forward. -- 5 mins
This is purely to get thoughts/ideas streamlined. Everybody needs to chip in once the action plans are drafted.
3. Volunteers to exchange contact information. -- 10 mins
4. Miscellaneous -- 15 mins (if needed)
Please add more items if you feel they are necessary.
I will try to scrape all the ideas generated in this thread and will summarize for the call. If anyone wants to post more ideas/comments/suggestions/criticisms, go right ahead and post.
Good idea to have a conference call.
Create a team of people who want to actively take part in such effort. These people will be leaders and will do all the planning and execution.
We will provide support for the functioning of this team.
Work on various ideas and see if they can be implemented, are as per current law and regulations.... What kind of budget do you need and can help raise etc.
We will provide guidance during the process if you need it. Also explore the possibility of a big lobby day in DC and create a team of participants for it. We see this event as a possibility in the near future to push our advocacy efforts.
minimalist
04-14 02:00 PM
The labor substitution was meant to have the employer not lose his place in the queue. However people started abusing it and that was closed.
So if any, please focus your energy on recapture.
Well, you can find many similar questions in life.
Labor substitution may be legal but it is unethical. When everything depends on when you join the queue, how can one cut the line?
So if any, please focus your energy on recapture.
Well, you can find many similar questions in life.
Labor substitution may be legal but it is unethical. When everything depends on when you join the queue, how can one cut the line?
frostrated
08-11 12:43 PM
i guess with more EB3 folks moving to EB2, it will help those of us who are stuck with no option to move to EB2. :)
i think they need to make a rule where if you are stuck more than 5 years due to retrogression, all over flow visas need to be first given to those folks in the order of PD.
i think they need to make a rule where if you are stuck more than 5 years due to retrogression, all over flow visas need to be first given to those folks in the order of PD.